"The real threat to Iraqis is coming now from Western defeatists," writes Johann Hari, challenging the reliably defeatist writers of letters to the Independent to "dare" to claim that Iraq's Marsh Arabs would be better off now if Saddam Hussein had remained in power:
No, this is not the primary reason why we went to war, but the liberation of the Marsh Arabs was an entirely predictable result of military action - and many of you marched to stop it.
One guy hadn't bothered to read the sign he had been handed (U.S. Troops Out of Iraq. Bring Them Home Now!), which, if his banal homily on the the need to fix windows you have broken is any indication, directly contradicted his actual opinion. Others seemed even more confused:
Protestor Laura Beauvais, a professor of business at the University of Rhode Island, was against appropriating $87 billion to Iraq. When asked what Americans owe the Iraqi people, she said, "We owe them help getting basic things like schools and healthcare." But how to provide that, without spending American money? "How you do that is beyond someone like me. It doesn't have to be through more troops, and giving money to corporations," she said.
That reminds of one of the arguments used in run up to the war, that went something like "we should oppose the war because going to war SHOULD be hard." Abandon all reason ye who enter here.
Posted by: JB at October 29, 2003 08:51 PMWe can't leave until Saddam and all of his inner circle have been eliminated. What we should do is tell the city of Tikrit - where he is most likely hiding out - that they have 48 hours to turn him over. Of they don't, drop a nuke on them. No American troops will die. Just a bunch of ragheads and sandniggs.
Posted by: Stern Fan at October 30, 2003 02:59 AM"Just a bunch of ragheads and sandniggs."
Pleonasm, or do I need to upgrade my slur dictionary?
Posted by: spacetoast at October 30, 2003 04:57 AMThanks, Stern, for showing the world that nutcases exist on both sides of this issue.
As a lefty who opposed the war - at least in its go-it-alone form - I had to agree with most of Michelle Goldberg's conclusions. ANSWER is learning the hard lesson that a bit of organizational skill won't make the public accept their nutty opinions.
I agree that the US cannot now pull out of Iraq without another, preferably UN-based alternative for maintaining order and rebuilding infrastructure. I oppose the $87 billion because we've seen no sign that Bush's wealthy constituency are willing to contribute anything to the war effort. Indeed, they keep lining up at the trough for more tax cuts. We could raise that money tomorrow if the rich were willing to pay their fair share of taxes.
Until then, I won't willingly give up a dime of my $24K salary. Alas, my will is not paramount at the moment. But I still have my opinions and my ballot.
Posted by: Jason Toon at October 30, 2003 06:37 PM